Thursday, February 7, 2008

The Great Pyramid

One of the beliefs of the LHMM is that the plan of God is illustrated by the Great Pyramid in Egypt. They believe that it Is referred to in the Bible by
Isaiah 19:19 "In that day there will be an altar to the LORD in the heart of Egypt, and a monument to the LORD at its border."
Besides symbolism of the passages to various features of God's plan there are also measurements that they believe correspond to time features of God's plan down the the year, month, and day.

It is possible that there are some demonstrable and amazing scientific design features of the pyramid. This is good evidence to show that man is quite intelligent, ingenious, and even inspired even so long ago. Unfortunately, what they believe to be an amazing witness to God is not. Today it is a witness to Satan, the New Age movement. etc. It does not draw people to Christ. It is a distraction from Jesus for those that spend a lot of time studying it.

The people that studied the pyramid the most and wrote the major work entitled "Great Pyramid Passages" were John and Morton Edgar. They and others went overboard measuring things with precision entirely impossible to verify. A Swiss brother that came up with some of these ideas went to the extreme of calculating 20 decimal places of accuracy for the coffer. There are several verifiable errors in their writings regarding prophecy predictions using the pyramid, etc. None of these have been corrected or even pointed out in later writings.

In the Russell section on pyramids at watchthetower.com it shows scanned copies of the original volumes and how Russell changed the measurements in the Great Pyramid over time.

One of the most important classes to the LHMM is the Great Company...they even receive a heavenly reward. They are not represented anywhere in the Great Pyramid.

The LHMM teaches the death of Paul S.L. Johnson and Raymond Jolly are verified by time measurements in the Great Pyramid. If their death is symbolized in the Great Pyramid, it puts them on the same level as Christ in the symbolism. In addition, the method of determining the death of Jolly is a random measurement with no symbolism to the passages. Why isn’t Russell’s death shown if Johnson and Jolly were?

Other groups believe in the testimony of the Great Pyramid. The ISKCON (International Society of Krishna Consciousness) claim that the birth of Krishna and other incarnations of their gods are marked in the Great Pyramid. Bahai (a mix of Christian & Muslim faiths) have found teachings in the Great Pyramid as do the Freemasons.

Even if the Great Pyramid was truly what they say it is, it is quite an ineffective witness to God in today's world.

3 comments:

jjon hanning said...

"Even if the Great Pyramid was truly what they say it is, it is quite an ineffective witness to God in today's world."

The Pyramid witness will be a witness made in due time to the current idle billions as a proof "afterwards" that our God certainly knew the details of His own plan centuries before its fulfillment.

As to this witness being ineffective - I'm not sure you know what you're talking about. My experience with this subject has been that when we have had public meetings that show forth the features of the Great Pyramid (Historical, Scientific and Biblical) we have had audiences much larger than on any other subject... since my involvement in the mid eighties to the present... the last such meeting we hosted had the speaker speaking for one and a half hours followed by questions from the audience for two hours. The next day he spoke to the local Rotary club for a considerable time and again answered many questions. The interest was overwhelming, and the follow up work extensive.

You make a lot of assumptions without giving and proof to show your points... not a surprise for a forum that does not permit anonymous comments, although you yourself personally remain anonymous.

Me said...

Please define "audiences much larger" , "interest overwhelming", and "follow up work extensive".

Does this mean 5, 25, 50, 100 people? If so, how many of these people were converted to "the truth" of the LHMM doctrines through this witness? Was the follow up work extensive because only 1-2 people were involved? Can you provide statistics to support your points?

Compared to the number of people in the U.S. or the world, anything less that 1,000 people I think could be be termed as "ineffective". If the pyramid is to be a witness "afterwards" then why wouldn't the Bible be enough? Do people really need to see that God knew what he was doing after the fact? Is that to make them feel stupid that they didn't see it there before?

jjon hanning said...

"Please define "audiences much larger" , "interest overwhelming", and "follow up work extensive"."

So sorry that we could not attract 1000 persons to our public meeting so your faith could be confirmed... but we did have near fifty, and that is quite a bit for a tiny little town like the one in which I live. A number of them ordered books and even more a tape of the meeting they attended, which was available in audio and video. It also was done in a college town around thanksgiving time when the majority of our students were away from the campus...

"Does this mean 5, 25, 50, 100 people? If so, how many of these people were converted to "the truth" of the LHMM doctrines through this witness?"

I don't know that any of these folks were "converted" to anything. They ALL appeared to be believers already. You have made the assumption that the LHMM affiliated brethren do not consider other Christians to be Christians... you are mistaken, but then, this may be the view you held during the time of your affiliation.

"Was the follow up work extensive because only 1-2 people were involved? Can you provide statistics to support your points?"

It was to the majority of those who attended... yet I do not feel obligated to give such an anonymous person speaking from the bushes such information. Hope you don't mind.

"Compared to the number of people in the U.S. or the world, anything less that 1,000 people I think could be be termed as "ineffective"."

1,000 would hardly be considered effective as compared to six billion... don't you think... But then we've never been "numbers" people. If one person shows up at a public meeting, I would call that a success, for we had opportunity to preach the gospel.

"If the pyramid is to be a witness "afterwards" then why wouldn't the Bible be enough?"

Good question! But I did not write the Bible or build the pyramid, so you'll just have to ask the Lord about that one. Why give us a Bible in the first place? Why didn't He just save us and tell us the past was not important? I guess He did it his way and forgot to get your pre-approval ???

"Do people really need to see that God knew what he was doing after the fact? Is that to make them feel stupid that they didn't see it there before?"

I doubt that Jehovah is interested in making people feel stupid. Are you?

This "effective witness" has interested and informed many former non believers IN THIS LIFE that God had a plan and published it in stone long before it was active... not to mention the mathematical and scientific teachings that are also built therein... long before they were known to mankind.